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Conversation Number 24

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The following conversation between a believer and God is not meant to represent a specific theology or theological truth. It represents one believer's struggle and the response that believer represents as God's truth for that believer and that believer alone.

I love you, Lord.
I love you back, my son. You want to know about where I was before I was.

Yes, humorously put, I want to know where or who or what you were before you created all things. I want to know how you could exist if nothing else existed. I want to know how you came into being.
You ask too much. You give me joy in wanting to know the unknowable. I always was. I am love. Love always ways. I have no beginning and no end. I am a circle. I am a seed of complexity that is infinite but I am not a seed here. Only in your own way of thinking am I like a seed. I extend to the outer most edges of this reality and all other realms. At the edge of all other realms I keep going forever and ever and ever.

How could you not have started out? I can see how you could go on into eternity from a present beginning but how could you not start somewhere being you?
There was a time when there was no time. There was a time when there was no space or reality as you know it. When I created time and reality and realms as you think of them, I went from being who I was before as Creator to being Creator. When I created time as you think of time, I went from everlasting to everlasting. However, in Heaven, in my present place, there is no time. There is only joy, only love, only rejoicing beyond anything you can fathom. The questions you ask are good questions but no one cares here. We are all too happy and too joyous to care about what was before there was anything.

Why did you create all that is?
I was lonely. I was just by myself. Love is to be shared and I had no one to share myself with. I created you so I could share myself with you. I also gave you the ability to choose whether you wanted to share yourself with me. I love you beyond your understanding. I sent my son to tell you and show you how much I love you. I created every person so I could share myself with them and they could share themselves with me. When love and adoration is shared between you and me, creation flowers and blossoms.

How did you create molecules and basic elements? How did you create electrons, protons, neutrons, quarks, and other sub-atomic particles?
I thought about them.

What about sin?
I cannot look at it like you think of looking. I detest it. Sin is anti-God. Sin is anti-love. Sin kills, hurts, and destroys. I love you but I cannot bear to see the sin in you or other people. There will come a time when I cannot bear to see the sin of the world and then things will change forever. I grieve when there is sin. I grieve beyond anyone's ability to fathom when there is sin. I cannot take the grieving for much longer. I cannot bear the hurt of the sin of the world much longer. The sin of the world is like a pressure pushing against the boundaries of heaven. At some point, I will say no more and then there will be no more sin. At some point, the pressure of sin will be so great the sin will push against me and the sin will destroy itself because of the pressure against me. This is how you need to understand wrath. I am capable of wrath but not as you want to think of wrath. My wrath is the result of sin pushing against me and when sin pushes against me the sin sets up its own destruction. Think of pushing your hand against a concrete wall. If you could push and push and push until your hand hurt and eventually pushed until your bones break, that is what my wrath is like. Where there is no sin there is no wrath because there is no pressure against my love. When there is sin, there is a pressure that will destroy the sin. The sin pushes on me and the pressure the sin exerts eventually causes the destruction of the sin.

If this is true in regard to sin and your wrath, why have you let sin exist at all?
If this is true? Do you not believe me?

Yes, Lord. I do believe. Sometimes I slip up.
I was teasing you a little.

Yes, I know.
I have had to let the ball of creation roll on for there are souls to be given the chance to live and glorify me. In glorifying me, these souls glorify themselves. When a soul glorifies me, and in turn, glorifies itself, all of creation is steeped in the glory. There is joy unspeakable when a soul rises above sin and reaches out to me in humble adoration.

Is there a specific time when a given amount of sin pressure will cause the end of all things as we know them now?
No one knows the specific time. You can see the signs of sin and what sin does. When sin gets to a certain point then the end will come. The end of all that is can be and is determined by the level of sin in the world.

Tomorrow, if the whole world fell before you in love and adoration and sin became almost non-existent, would that set the clock back in terms of the end of things as we know them?
Yes.

Tomorrow, if the whole world suddenly fell into deep sin, and even the remnant you have now was to fall into deep sin, would that set the clock up in terms of your ending things as they are now?
I will not end things as they are now. What will end things as they are now is the amount of sin in the world pressing against me and causing its own destruction along with the destruction of the world. Sin in the world destroys people, families, nations, and eventually sin will destroy the world as you know it. I have given you freedom and control over what happens in the days to come. The more people repent and fall down before me in love and adoration then the more time there will be until all things end. However, sin and Satan are in a desperate race to end things by consuming everyone as fast as possible. Look around you. Look and see. I am not revealing anything you do not already know.

Thank you Lord. I love you.
Thank you, my son. I love you back in infinite ways.






 

 

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